Pre-Race Horse Racing Trading on Betfair

Horse Trading on BetfairRacing trading in the pre-race markets is perhaps the holy grail of the Betfair trading world.

Many readers have asked me to explain what I do in these markets so I decided to put together a decent length article to give an outline of my approach to the pre-race horseracing markets, in particular the strategies I use and when and how I apply them ‘before the off’.

Trading horses before the off is generally considered to be safer for the beginner than trading horses In-Play or ‘In-Running’ to give it its proper name. It allows time for a novice racing trader to assess things fully and avoid getting led (misled) by lightning-fast and often unpredictable sudden market movements which can be pretty scary to simply witness during a horse race, let alone to trade.

For the average racing trading beginner, there is too much going on after the off which can easily cause a “fat finger” moment or a mis-click leading to heavy losses if not extremely careful. Therefore most people who try their hand with horse racing for the first time tend to stick to the pre-race markets until fully up to speed with the factors causing the price movements, as well as experience of racing generally and knowledge of horses, trainers, jockeys, course layouts, etcetera.

(Trading horses “In-Running” is a very different beast to the pre-race trading style but depending on the methods in use, it doesn’t need to be quite so scary. I have recently published my strategies for the IR markets in my new Horse Racing Trading In-Running ebook, these are fairly beginner friendly methods.)

It is important to note here that racing trading, whether before the off or when the event is in play, is inherently difficult to master. It would be pretty dishonest for anyone to suggest otherwise in my view, as anyone I have ever known who has mastered this trading method, knows only too well that it didn’t all click into place overnight. Having said that, I should also point out that once you have mastered it, you will be hard pushed to find a faster way to make regular and large profits in normal working hours from the comfort of your home.

volatility signHorse racing markets are, at least when compared to stock markets, volatile to say the least. Things happen very quickly, sometimes for reasons we can’t understand (no matter how experienced we are). For example, how could I possibly know that a huge gambling syndicate is about to stick half a million quid on the second favourite in the 3.40 at Newcastle 60 seconds before the off?!! Exactly. It is not necessary to have a crystal ball to protect yourself from such things, but plenty of experience combined with a HUGE level of personal discipline and a very defensive mindset in your trading is more than enough to prevent such things emptying your bank of all the green you made in the previous few races.

I have mentioned how difficult it is to trade horses. There is however one thing which is even more difficult than taking regular profits from the racing markets. That is teaching other people to do it! I can’t back this statement up with any data as that would be impossible, but nevertheless I would have a very big bet on my belief that if you could round up all the people who have been on any of the many Betfair pre-race trading courses, you would be lucky to find more than 1 in 100 attendees end up trading these markets full time for a living. I would not be at all surprised if it was less than 1 in 500.

get rich quick signIs this because the courses or trainers are all rubbish? I don’t think so, and from what I have heard from people who have attended some of these courses, the opposite is more likely the case. It is just that this stuff is bluddy hard to master! Also, I know myself just from running this trading blog, many (perhaps most) attendees and people expressing an interest in learning to trade on Betfair are looking to “get rich quick”. I get quite a few emails from people asking how to trade football “without having to do all the analysis” or “whats the best gambling tipster”?

These types of questions tend to come from people who are basically saying “I want all the good stuff, without the effort, please hand it to me now.” The laws of nature dictate that anything worthwhile takes effort, the more worthwhile it is, the more effort it requires (among many other things). Since Betfair pre-race trading is the holy grail, it stands to reason that this form of trading takes more time, effort, discipline, experience, knowledge and patience than any other method. I believe this to be the case too, without a shadow of a doubt.

easy money sign

If that’s what you’re after, you’re on the wrong track and you best jump off at the next exit.

Due to this difficulty factor and the complexity of these markets, I can not explain my entire approach on this page. I wouldn’t do that even if it was possible, which it is definitely not. There is theory, and then there is practice. And then there is months of repeating the practice, re-reading the theory, redoing the practice and so on until it just “clicks”.

Trying to learn racing trading is like trying to read a very big book by a very dim candle light. When that “click” happens, it’s as if someone just turned on a 500W halogen bulb and added colour pictures to the pages of your book. It’s literally that sudden and that significant a change. It’s completely unmissable when it happens. Anyone out there reading this who has mastered horse racing trading will know precisely what I am talking about. There is a clear and obvious “aha” moment with pre-race trading, for those who make it anyway.

Shock

Until then, it feels very much like guesswork. Suddenly, one day, IF you put in the hours, the buckets of self-discipline, and follow a long list of imperative do’s and don’ts, the blurry experience of watching ladders going up and down without rhyme or reason just clicks into place and becomes clear at long last. You are then able to glance at a market and within a few seconds decide whether:

  1. There is no trade here
  2. There is an obvious trade here
  3. There may be a trade here soon, if x,y and z happens.

Point 1 is, in my experience at least, by far the hardest to learn to identify. It may sound silly but again, for anyone reading this who knows how to trade pre-race markets, it will make a lot of sense I am sure. The reason is because of that age-old arch enemy of every trader, especially learners… GREEEEEEEEEED.

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It can take some people months, others years, before they stop looking for a trade, and instead look at the markets in a more calm and balanced way, just aiming to find out what IS happening rather than what they want or hope to see happen. It takes a long time to kill off that unscratchable itch to “find” a trade. In essence… beginners look for trades. Experienced traders just look at the market to see if there is a trade. And the answer most of the time is NO. This is where novices try and ‘force a trade’ out of an unwilling market, and I don’t care who you are or how big your Betfair balance is, NOBODY is big enough to push the markets around. Doing so only ever ends in tears, and losses. Sitting tight resisting urges to click when your gut feeling says “dive in” is in my view the biggest key difference between experienced traders and novices, that goes for any market on earth, but especially the Betfair racing markets where the speed and size of the trends can be an irresistible temptation for even the most disciplined character.

As most traders know, the majority of markets do not have a trade available for you every time you glance at it, surprise surprise! Easy to understand that logic in the cold light of day isn’t it?! But knowing this in theory, and behaving accordingly when you are faced with a busy screen of clickable ladders, these are two very different things. This is assuming you are looking for a sign that a move is about to take place which is the essence of my trading style. Of course some people are just looking to scalp one or two ticks, and for those people yes there could easily be many trades in every market, every single day. I used to do this myself on football markets as well as when trading horse racing. However, I found the workload high, and the rewards low. Scalping can definitely make regular and consistent profits, no doubt about that at all. But staring at every ladder intently for hours each day tends to give me severe headaches and by the end of the day I feel wiped out, so I stopped doing that long ago and stuck to the better equation of doing less to make more.

Pre-Race Trading Drifting Horse

A nice picture of a heavy drifter. But a much nicer picture for those who could see it coming when the horse was priced around evens (2.0)

Spotting a move in the markets (ideally before it happens!! takes considerable practice and experience as well as some tools which I would say are essential if you are remotely serious about mastering horse racing trading. Betfair Trading software is an absolute must. Live TV pictures are essential too.

You can use Betfair’s live video (https://livevideo.betfair.com/) which is definitely good enough to trade with, but if you can afford it most people (including me) subscribe to a racing service such as RacingUK. It’s just a deluxe option compared to the Betfair feed. Firstly you have commentary in between the races which can give you tips and insights you won’t get with the Betfair feed. Secondly you have it on your main TV screen which is bigger, far better quality, and frees up your PC screen for more ladders or charts or Sonic The Hedgehog or whatever else you want on there.

You can also watch AtTheRaces on channel 415 on Sky, which is free so that’s a good idea to use alongside Betfair’s live feeds, so long as you remember it is very slow, often 6-8 seconds behind the action.

Due to the delays on all the feeds, especially ATR, I would NEVER trade what I am seeing on my pictures. I  only trade what’s going on on the ladders and charts. The pictures merely give you hints and tips for why the ladders are doing what they are doing. They are a safety net, or an EXTRA indicator, not a trading indicator on their own. If you don’t understand why, consider the fact that what you are seeing on the TV screen is being seen LIVE (with no delay) by a lot of traders at the track. Why would you want to put yourself up against those highly experienced traders, and hand them a 6-8 second (or longer) advantage over you? Are you just keen to throw money away?!! Good, neither am I. Watch how fast those on track traders snatch your notes if you leave them hanging out in the breeze! Your trading software will show you what is going on at exactly the same time as everyone else, you have no delay and no disadvantages, that surely must be a good starting point for anyone, beginner trader or full timer.

Racing UK feed

 

There are a variety of trading methods in my toolkit and I use them all from time to time, but the main bulk of my trading is done using just two approaches:

  1. Early trends or moves – 8am until 30 minutes before the off (possible to do without software)
  2. 10 mins pre-race until the off

 

Early Trend Trading

The basic approach of my early trends strategy is to find what looks like a strongly fancied horse, usually within the top 3 or 4 horses in any race based on the early morning tips in the Racing Post, Sporting Life and other leading newspapers and websites, combined with chart analysis and betting data. This is long before the markets start getting any serious liquidity. It is very rare that I look to trade in markets with “thin” volume but this is an exception. The thin volume can actually help here. If the markets are only just getting going, the lack of volume can often mean that the market hasn’t fully “formed” yet, in other words the runners haven’t been backed or laid to anything like their true reflection of ability or likelihood of winning.

All trading is about trying to find a reliable way of predicting moves. In this case, what the tipsters are saying and what the betting markets are doing give a combined indication which is often very reliable, leading us to take a position based on where we think the volume will go when it finally arrives throughout the day. Go in any bookies at 9-10 am and see how empty it is. Spend the day in there (as I’ve done many a time in a past life of dirty gambling!) and you will see that nobody really goes to these places early in the day except the die-hard down and outs, and occasionally a few pros who want those early prices for the same reasons I do!

Morning in a bookmaker

Come on Dad, breakfast is ready!

When the punters start cramming through the door around lunch time, stuff starts to happen. When the Betfair traders get on their ladders, stuff happens even faster. When the bookies lay off their books and the serious traders get involved, the markets can look very different to how they looked at 1015am. This change is what this method is all about, trying to see how this money is going to be placed in the market when it finally turns up.

I will look at all the tipsters and all the betting money. Where the early betting money is going can give an indication of a horse which is going to be strongly fancied, but without something to corroborate that idea, it’s not tradeable as an idea in itself. This is where the tipsters come in. Likewise the other way around, seeing the tipsters all napping the same horse is not enough to start backing it in, but once we see betting money following the tipster’s selections, that again corroborates the idea and we now have evidence that the tipsters are being followed by punters, which gives us a good idea where the growing volume is likely to be heading.

In this case, if many of the tipsters fancy a particular horse, and the early betting shows a large volume of bets going in the same direction, I would then place a back bet on the horse as early as possible. I will watch the odds throughout the day monitoring my position fairly loosely (with practice this gets easier, they rarely go badly against me but they can sometimes do so, therefore I check every half an hour to an hour generally).

horse racing pre-race trading chartWhen the market warms up with heavier volume I will look more regularly hoping for a stronger pre-race trend to form as it gets backed in closer to the off. This doesn’t always happen, some horses come in based on the newspaper tipsters but then the trader’s undo that idea and turn it back around, hence the reason for more regular checks later on. Tipsters are a bookie-punter’s tool, not a trader’s tool, so they have more value in the morning than later on, and they are frankly worthless once the race gets very close to the off, around 30 minutes before the race. If the horse doesn’t keep coming in, or if it looks like turning around and drifting back out I will close out my trade. Usually it will come in at least 5-10 ticks, sometimes less sometimes more and of course sometimes they are losers. I will take a profit when I feel it has run its course as far as the trend is concerned. If it goes against me, I won’t let it go too far as clearly my early idea was wrong, so why keep throwing money at it?

The only other thing worth mentioning is the use of charts in my Betfair trading software. By using these charts and the moving averages (in some programs), you can get a better idea of the trend’s strength, and when it looks like breaking out of the trend, which is a good time to exit. Sometimes I will trail a stop loss behind that moving average line as the trend rolls along. If it breaks through the MA, I am out. But usually I don’t automate any of it, I just check and take a fresh look every now and then, if anything looks like changing drastically, I am out. If nothing has changed, I will hold on as long as possible as it inches my way.

racing trend findingRecently I have been working with a friend of mine (programmer) to try and develop a small piece of software to do most of the donkey work above. The idea is to design something which can do all of the selections for me in seconds, and possibly even manage the trades too if we can get really clever with it. But for now maybe just an alert to text or email me if the price moves suddenly against my position. It’s coming along well but nowhere near finished yet. If it works how I hope it will, it could be a nifty piece of kit, and I will update the site as and when, so stay tuned by liking the Facebook page or subscribing to the email updates using the form in the sidebar as I will announce this when the testing is finished and I am confident in it’s selection ability.

 

 

2. 10 Minutes Pre-Race Trading

The second method is the one I use much more frequently. The early trends requires my day to be fully free from early doors right through until the races start as I may need to sit down and check charts and information online etcetera throughout the day. I don’t have an awful lot of days which are that clear, or I may have plans to go out before the racing begins so on those days I will not do early trends stuff.

My main pre-race trading is done only in the last ten minutes pre-off. Of that ten minutes, the first 2-5 minutes is spent analysing and/or waiting for significant volume to get going. For true trend trading, the more money involved, the more reliable the trend indications and moves. This applies to any market. Thin markets are known for wild volatility and unpredictability. It therefore stands to reason that the bigger the market (in terms of volume) the greater the stability, and the more weight we can put on the signals we are looking at.

Early in the morning, one big bet can move a horse quite a long way in or out, it can even start a ‘false trend’ running as some people follow the big money (stupidly!). During early trends analysis, any races with a big sudden chunk of money would be ignored generally, as that can be enough to imbalance the market and cause a higher risk of a losing trade, due to the trend not being “real”, for want of a better word. When it comes to trading just before the off, big money is coming in every second or two. This means we can more reliably take an indication off this, especially if it’s followed by a string of further £10k bets.

I have said already and I will say it again, this type of trading requires a HUGE amount of practice and discipline. Therefore I won’t even begin to pretend that reading this page is going to make anyone a successful pre-race trader and I would ask all readers NOT to read this page then go off and trade based on the few details I give here. With that said, here is a basic outline of how I trade the 10 min pre-race markets:

 

A) Strongly Trending Market

These are easy to spot once you have watched enough ladders. We are looking for a horse on a constant and steady (sometimes fast) move in one direction. I open all charts for the main players in a race. When I say “main players” this is not an exact science but I am generally referring to all horses which look like they have half a chance based on their odds. In some races, the favourite might be odds-on, the second favourite is 3.0, the third favourite 6.0 and the rest over 20.0. In this case, I would say there a three “main players”. However a competitive handicap at a big meeting might have 5 or 10 horses all which are priced under 14.0 and with no clear favourite, in which case there are a lot of charts to look at. For this reason, I may not even bother with this race, that’s the old “time for a cuppa” method, you can have that one for free!

tea break from trading

Sitting OUT of a market IS A TRADING DECISION! The trade you chose is to stay out of the market and watch. Remember that. I have no idea how much money tea has saved me!

 

With practice and experience of watching the markets, it’s soon quite easy to see at a glance whether the race has a wide field of fancied horses or, in many cases, a strong top one or two horses plus a few others in contention, the rest are all outsiders and I virtually ignore them. “Virtually”, not “completely”, as if a horse is backed in from 24.0 to 12.0, this could have a big impact on the other horses, even the favourite. But this is very rare so I tend to only look at the outsiders charts if the main players are acting “weird” or if I can’t fathom why the favourite is drifting when it looks like it should be coming in or at least staying where it is.

So, assuming I open the charts and I see a favourite which has crept in (coming down in odds) all day, and is still gradually coming in 10 minutes from the off, I will look for the reasons. This is usually (ideally) caused by one thing, the other horses are not competing with it in the betting market so their prices are not pushing the book in any direction. If I check and see all horses, other than the favourite, looking weak (in betting terms) or drifting out in price, I will back the favourite and keep an eye on those other horses for a sudden change where they might start gaining in strength which would threaten my plan to back the favourite as it comes in before the off. Most strong favourites, without any real pressure from other horses in the market, will come down in price the closer you get to the off time. Everyone loves to back a strong favourite, that is not only true in the bookies but on the ladders too.

I use a dedicated computer for all of my horseracing trading. I don’t often take screenshots as doing a shift-printscreen then a copy paste into a paint document and filesave seems a horrible prospect when I am focussed on the markets! I will see if I can sort out a better way of doing it at some point, although I have no plans to run courses on this stuff so not sure if there is much point really. My brother in law (who is currently dabbling once a week on baby stakes while between jobs) trades on his Apple computer which can take instant screenshots easily, and he regularly sends me them asking for my thoughts. I just had a quick scan through them and I found one which makes a lovely example of the above point:

Bet Angel screenshot

This is a perfect example – a very simple race set up – the favourite is strong. Dave (bro in law) decided to back it when the 2nd favourite drifted past 3.5 as that’s a round number and equates to 5/2 in bookie prices – i.e. resistance. The third favourite and all other runners were high priced outsiders with no bearing on the market whatsoever. So this was a dead easy trade even for him, the only real threat to the odds-on favourite is not fancied and is drifting badly. What else could the favourite do but shorten in odds? He was well chuffed with his small but no doubt very satisfying green! For the sake of honesty – he then went and threw it away on the next race by running a bad trade well into the red “waiting for a turnaround”. I did say he is new to this! The psychological effect of losing a good green is twice as powerful as winning one. He then “lost the plot” a bit (his words!) and had a red day. But if he had stuck to the easiest and most obvious moves (like this one) then he would have had a nice green day. He is slowly learning when to sit out.

 

Trump - oopsImportant: If I can not see a reason, or anything which helps me understand why the favourite is doing what it’s doing, I will NOT trade that market. Saying this and doing it are two different things, and even these days I might still trip up now and then by entering a market I perhaps wasn’t too clear about beforehand. Just being honest, I don’t like to admit this really! I am yet to meet a “perfect” trader, and I sure as hell ain’t one!

If I do get into a market without enough clarity, I am out the very second I realise my mistake. This is another very hard thing to do in practice, but very important to learn. Trading isn’t personal. The market didn’t fool me. I fooled myself, I disadvantaged myself, so I must restore my advantage by getting out and saving my cash for a race I do have a better feel for. The markets are never right or wrong. They just…. are. 🙂

 

This approach applies to a drifting favourite just the same but obviously in reverse. If I see a favourite trending out, I will again look at the other runners to see if I can find the reason. A drifting favourite is never enough reason to trade. A move which you can understand is the only tradeable move. Otherwise how would you know when the move is coming to an end? And they always do of course. Picking your exit price is half the battle of making regular greens. Staying in until it reaches its “top” is suicide. You need to let the market keep some of the money, take a nice chunk out of the middle of the trend, and leave the tops/bottoms to those who really do have a crystal ball (which means those who don’t last very long). If you are just “chasing” a drifting horse which is drifting for reasons you have no idea of, you are basically the mouse running up the clock. You are aimless, purposeless, confused, and ultimately nervous of that rebound you ‘just know is coming’ but you haven’t a clue when! You will then get “shaken out” when the market does have a small retracement or re-consolidation, out you get, while the drift may well continue much further. You can’t possibly know whether it’s just consolidating (pausing) or actually has finished the move and could whipsaw back on you, unless you know why the move happened to begin with. If you can only understand one move a day, you should only trade one race a day. It’s as simple as that. Don’t over-trade, over-learn instead. It’s cheaper to do, and sets you up for a brighter future I can assure you!

The markets are basically a see-saw with the favourite on one side and ALL OTHERS on the other.

seesawIt may not always be that clear cut, but that’s the best way to think about it in my experience. So if one side is pushing down, the other side naturally must rise up as the book tries to stay in balance. Getting this “feel” is where the real aha moment lives. More importantly, getting a feel for how strong that see-saw movement is, that’s when you are really motoring. Some markets given a casual glance can look like there is a lot of downwards pressure on the non-favourite side, but on closer inspection it might have been misleading as the prices may just be at resistance points (strongly traded prices with very little volume below/above depending on which way it’s going). In which case you would bear in mind your initial feeling, but you would need it to be confirmed by those horses sitting on resistance actually breaking through that resistance. Then the see-saw would have some real power behind it, and a trade is then sensible as the odds are heavily in your favour that the favourite will move and will move enough distance to get you in, out, and greened before it runs out of steam.

As you may have realised, I tend to only trade the favourite. This is not a concrete rule by any means, I often trade other runners but I definitely trade the favourite far more often. It’s where the bulk of the money has gone during the day usually so it at least feels like the safest place to stick my cash. Obviously in some races there is no clear favourite and I will either walk away or have a half stakes dabble on another runner just based on my hunch of what’s going to happen. In such cases I am ready like a snake to pounce on the exit button if I am wrong, but equally ready to pounce in with my other half stake if my gut feeling was right.

 

B) Ranging market

A ranging market takes a second or two to spot. Years ago when I started trading the racing markets I used to hate these and I usually left them alone as I was only ever hunting for a big trend on the favourite in either direction. Over time, I learned that money can be made from the ranging markets too, not as much perhaps, but making a few quid here and there in between the bigger moves certainly seemed better than drinking too much tea and running back and forth to the loo all afternoon.

A ranging market is basically just a market where the horses are not trending strongly outside of their previously traded range. You can see this previous range within your software, all the main trading software programs show the traded volume next to each price on the ladder. This gives me an instant view of where that horse has traded and more importantly which prices saw the most money being traded. A ranging horse is a horse which has a very clear band of prices at which it has traded, and very little volume outside that range. A ranging market is just a market where all horses are doing that, they all have a tight and clearly defined range where the horses just don’t seem to want to trade outside of. Here is a good example of a ranging horse (courtesy of bro in law again):

Tight range on ladders

My settings in Gruss and Geek’s Toy all show the same data, just with different colours. You can configure it to your liking, so choose colours (for traded volume bars) which suit your own preferences and make it as clear as possible to your eye.

You can find hundreds of these when you start to recognise the simple indications of a horse ranging tightly. In this case you can see the horse has actually traded well above the 4.8 shown on the top of this ladder. But that can be ignored as that was earlier in the day and the very low volume at all prices above 3.8 can be ignored at the 10 minute pre-off stage. This might remind you of why and how I do the early trends stuff above. This was probably a nice downtrend through the day until the real money arrived. After this time the big money has quite clearly shown what prices this horse is being allowed to trade at. Its traded as low as 3.55 but again you can see the volume is £600 (which means £300 backed and £300 laid), versus £7,300 traded at 3.6 just the next tick above. This tells me that after the real money arrived, this horse has a tight and clear range of 3.6 to 3.8. Any range of more than about 10 ticks would be ignored as that’s not tight enough to be reliable. But in this example the horse has slowly been backed into this range and now it’s found that range it is likely to be fairly “obedient” to its boundaries. Again, no guarantees in trading, but the probabilities are good enough for me.

handicap raceA competitive handicap (Hcap shown on Betfair) is often a good place to find these, not that I go looking for them. Handicapped races frequently have horses trading within a clear range. Sometimes only 4-5 ticks, sometimes more, sometimes even less.

Knowing that this “range” is where the horse has traded all day is valuable information. Of course past data is certainly no guarantee of future performance (heard that before?!) but it stands to reason that if a horse has only traded between 1.94 and 2.0 all day, it is reasonably likely to meet with some resistance if it tries to trade outside of that range. Why? Because it has resisted doing so many times already.

Of course it’s not the horse that’s “resistant”, but the market participants, the punters and traders in other words. Every time the horse was backed down to 1.94, the layers got off their back sides and laid it saying “that’s a good price to lay”. Then each time it drifted up to 2.0, the backers got back involved saying “that’s a good price to back” and so it continues. As these ranges can and do sometimes get broken, we must not see them as any kind of rule, just a suggestion of what is likely to happen. Trading is all about an ‘edge’. An edge means more than 50/50 chance, so that if you did the same thing over and over again, you would end up more often green than red. If it was guaranteed, it wouldn’t be a trade. It is a trade because I am aligning my money with what is more likely than not to happen. I expect it to go wrong, I plan for it to go wrong, I am ready to act the second it does go wrong. That’s the losses taken care of and prepared for. Of course more often than not, it doesn’t “go wrong” and the traded range helps to keep the price where I expect it to stay, meanwhile I can bag a few ticks and often several times in a minute or two.

So, in case you hadn’t worked it out, I will lay a horse at the bottom of its traded range (only if its a clear and narrow range) and back it at the top. At least that’s the basics of it. I will also have several eyes peeking at the other runners, again looking for an early warning that something is not going to pan out how I want. In a ‘rangey’ market, most or all of the other horses are also in a range, the horses that could have an impact on the favourite anyway. If one horse, or worse still, two other horses break out of their previous traded range, it stands to reason that the favourite may now have an increased chance of breaking out of it’s own range. At this point, I am out, usually before it actually does so. If I don’t see an early warning and only notice when the horse I am trading breaks out of its range, I am out a tick or two (three at the very most) after it leaves its previous range. This stop loss can be automated in trading software. I don’t always use it but I do sometimes, especially if the phone goes or some other distraction turns up (which I know it shouldn’t!).

Some markets can stay within their ranges right up to the off, but I will usually expect at least one attempted breakout as they do often test their boundaries at some point before the off. With this method, the best trading period in my experience is between 10 and 5 minutes from the off, 2 minutes at the very latest. When it gets closer than 5 minutes to the off I find more chance of range breakouts, 2 minutes from the off they are even more likely. If I am already in a rangey trade as 2 mins comes along I won’t necessarily exit my trade, but I will move my stop loss closer to protect more green on my open trade and take less chances on a sudden late move.

I had a look around on Youtube for a video which might show a rangey market nicely for those readers who have not looked at this stuff before. Curiously, I couldn’t find anything too clear to demonstrate it, but the last video I clicked on was a Peter Webb (of Bet Angel fame) video entitled “How to read a racing market”. Don’t look at it as a way to learn to read a market, it’s not a nice market at all as you will see! But…. It’s got some real value here. Here is a market which firstly looks tricky regardless of any significant things happening to make it even more tricky, and something did happen to do that, a horse was withdrawn. In case you don’t know already, when a horse is removed the market has a major reshuffle to account for the change in odds across all runners. These are nasty races for beginners generally, you can almost throw all the early analysis out of the window! But this video is perfect for showing here. Peter does well to get a green from this market in my view, I suspect he would agree it wasn’t a great market to be trading and great respect should be given to him for publishing it as some people wouldn’t, and I am sure he could have chosen some much more boastful or impressive examples if he wanted to. Kudos.

Watch the video and then I will explain why I think it is so useful:

 

When I opened this video up and saw the first glimpse of the ladders, I very nearly closed the window as it looked to be of no use whatsoever in showing the type of rangey market I am discussing here. But for some reason I was intrigued enough to watch it through and I am glad I did. Even in an erratic and volatile market which has just had a hand grenade thrown into it, look how quickly a range formed. Again, this is NOT my idea of a perfect example of a tight range but loosely I would say it quickly became apparent that this horse had a range of 1.76 to 1.81 ish (once it has formed).

Watch it again, and count how many times it hit the end of the range and reversed. So even though Peter Webb was looking for a breakout/trend to start happening (which is the opposite of what I am watching it for!) this video ended up being a prime example of range trading to my eye. How many range trades could you have had in this market? Loads. I am not saying you would have been right to do so, as I don’t think this looks like a nice market to be range trading at all given the early action and the non-runner adjustment, but it demonstrates the movements so nicely I think it’s an excellent, if unlikely example to help explain my point.

00.05 (5 seconds into the vid) – The market looks like someone just threw a grenade into it, as Peter says himself. He now waits for things to settle down and get some clarity again.

00.36 – Some big backing takes place which finally starts to push to find a “bottom” for this horse’s prices.

01.21 – Big bet takes the market out of the bottom of the range for a split second, but the layers did their duty and jumped back in to keep the price above 1.76. What actually happened here is someone wanted to back a grand or whatever on this horse, and decided to back it down at 1.74 which hoovers up all the money in the queues above it first. Instantly those lay orders which were hoovered up were replaced with plenty more. So in effect this big back bet was an anomaly, it was a one off, and didn’t indicate a break out of the range. If it had been followed by just one more similar bet, that would suggest to me the range has no bottom yet or isn’t going to be a range at all.

01.24 – Look at the volume bars growing on the right of the ladder. Look at 1.75 and 1.76. Regardless of the back bet which has just gone through the market, it is clear that 1.75 didn’t have a lot traded, and nearly 5 times as much has traded at 1.76. It also didn’t spend more than a second or two at 1.75 before going back up a tick to 1.76 where it seems to “feel” much more comfortable.

02.13 – He placed a similar bet to what I would have, laying at 1.77, but I would have probably waited for 1.76 as the volume bars on the right hand side clearly show the horse is good friends with the 1.76 price. Just after he enters, it dives one tick below his lay. He (wisely) gets out as for a split second it looked like a strong move down. If he had held one more tick, he would have stayed in for the subsequent return up the range. I would point out here that in no way am I criticising the master of Betfair racing trading (which is Peter Webb by the way). He is simply looking at (and for) different things to me on this ladder, and don’t forget I have hindsight when he didn’t. I am sure in his own hindsight (what a wonderful thing that is) he would have held that extra tick anyway. But remember, exiting is NEVER a mistake, even when it is. If that makes sense, you are really tuned in now! Exiting takes more balls than entering, remember that when your ego is taking a bashing :). Don’t “be brave and get in”, “be brave and get out”!!!! Also notice what a big chunk of lay money bangs in at 1.76 just as he exits. This is further confirmation that serious money is resisting this price moving lower than 1.76.

03.04 – The price does similar to what it did at the bottom earlier. It hits 1.81 briefly and then money gets thrown in there to contain the price in the range below. The 2k or so backers money at 1.81 is then attacked by layers and it looks like it’s going to go up through 1.81, but yet more money comes in very strongly to put paid to that idea. That was two clear challenges to breaking out of the top of the range, both failed.

Fake Spoof sign03.50 – Again we arrive at 1.76 and you can clearly see the market saying “no chance” and turning it back upwards. There is even a solid effort from a spoofer at 1.77 which is laughed at by the genuine layers. If you are not aware, “spoof money” is money put there purely to influence other traders. It’s been thrown in there to scare people and/or make the average novice traders panic into thinking this horse is going to come down in price. This will often cause the desired result as plonkers pile in under the 5k with their back bets “following the money”. The only trouble with that is that they often “follow sweet fanny adams” as “the money” wasn’t really there, it was just put there briefly to cause them to click then it disappears. Obviously this spoofer (maybe you’re reading, if so, stop it! :D) wanted to push the price of this horse down for one of many possible reasons, we don’t care about those reasons. The money looked spoofish simply due to the sum being so much bigger than most bets entering the ladder, and it was confirmed as the spoofer pulled it out and ran for the hills when it looked like getting matched!

Spotting the spoof… 03.53 – Look carefully. The ladder shows over 5k ‘wanting’ to back at 1.77. The traded volume bar on the right shows 23.4k traded. Then the 5k disappears in the blink of an eye, but the traded volume doesn’t go up accordingly, so it didn’t get matched and is now safely back in his Betfair balance. In other words he bottled it and cancelled his order as it was never intended to actually get matched. Hence “spoof”. If that 5k bet was matched by a layer, that would have added 10k to the traded volume bar at that price. Another way to spot a weak attempt at spoofing is to see where it sits on the ladder. If you see regular very large sums (in relation to the rest of the bets) landing one tick away from the current prices then you are probably seeing spoof bets trying to push the market (actually the other traders) around. A tick away from the action gives the spoofer a bit more time to cancel it. I would love to watch someone spend a day quickly matching all spoof bets, that would be fun!

04.24 – Peter gets so tired of waiting for a breakout and therefore a trend to form (which is his objective for this market) that he eventually decides to make a few ticks if he can while he waits. He orders a back bet at 1.8 to see if he can take a few ticks in the range. He then cancels it at 05.27 and instead lays as he again feels like the price could push through him and out of the range, i.e. that the breakout he is waiting for turns up. Yet again it doesn’t happen and the backers turn up instead to resist the breakout. Watch the back money build up in seconds to over 2.5k at 1.8!

06.35 – Ok Peter, finally you got your wish!! Breakout time! Notice how hard it resisted the next attempt, but the layers finally overcame the backers and 1.82 is hit and surpassed. How many warnings did you see there? It did briefly break through, then the range boundary still dragged it back down briefly before losing for good the final time. All of this action was the period when (IF you were trading this) you were getting signals that this range wasn’t going to hold on for much longer, but even if you didn’t spot the signals, who cares because you had ample time and chances to get out with a break even or a tick or two loss at the most. Once 1.82 and 1.83 are showing clear volume growth, you know this range is no longer relevant. Watch it several times and you will actually start to feel the market forces pushing and pulling. No this isn’t mystical BS, it’s just learning to interpret what your eyes are seeing, and due to the speed at which you need to make these decisions, it becomes more of a feeling when actually trading. After the fact, watching back on a video for example, it’s easier to explain each specific thing but you can’t do that when it’s live in front of you, so this starts to become very intuitive. It has to really. You don’t have anything like enough time to discuss all the pros and cons with yourself before clicking.

The rest of the video is not of much use, other than to show that this breakout was strongly resisted even after it broke, there was strong backers money just slowing down the drift until it finally lets rip and gets up over 1.9.

So again, NOT an example of a race I would be range trading, and NOT an example of a good tight range. But nevertheless it’s very useful to show that even in markets I wouldn’t touch, ranges still have real power once they have clearly formed.

It is a very useful first step to learn, to be able to open a market up and see if it’s a trending market, or a ranging one (or neither/can’t tell). In this example, I would definitely not have believed it was a ranging one from early analysis. I want to see much clearer traded volume bands than this race showed. But as I watched, it became clear that there was an obvious range going on there, and it was evidently tradeable even if I wouldn’t have done so. I can not and would not criticise Peter Webb when it comes to trading. But if this was a video from my brother in law asking me for comments, just to be totally transparent here, I would probably have told him he was too fixated on “finding” the breakout he was so sure was coming, that he overlooked what the market was actually doing in front of his eyes. Peter Webb knows far too much to accuse him of that, and he was clearly spot on in waiting and planning for the move he wanted to trade there. But for someone inexperienced who definitely wouldn’t have known that was coming, this would have been a mistake to ignore so many obvious green ticks while waiting for ‘the big move’.

 

square eyesWatching 50+ markets a day 7 days a week is the only way to fully understand this if it’s all brand new to you. Trying to watch, learn, AND have money at risk is a surefire way to failure. You will be shaken out of trading in no time. If you want to learn racing trading you start by watching, trading comes later when you feel SO sure you have sussed what’s going on that you just can’t not be involved in the next move you feel is coming. That’s how you know you’re ready to actually risk hard-earned money in these volatile and sometimes punishing markets.

You will quickly learn what a ranging market is versus a trending one. Trending ones move even faster and are even more volatile, so they take even longer to learn to trade in my opinion. Also, the risks are greater in trending markets as a trend can reverse as fast (or faster) than it went, and if you haven’t mastered the art of spotting why and when it’s likely to happen, you will get a nice juicy green which turns into an equally juicy red in what feels like the blink of an eye. Trend reversals are actually another method I use which I haven’t explained here as I feel it would only confuse the issue. After a year or trading trends and ranges, you might be somewhere near ready to start trading reversals! Another year and you might be able to trade a trend, and then the subsequent reversal tacked onto the end!! But that’s for another article another day!

The nicest part of range trading is the stop loss issue. When trading a trend, you have to constantly move your stop loss to protect some green. Well, you don’t “have to”, but I do. Why make green if you are not banking some along the way? Range trading is different. In the example of a favourite trading between 1.94 and 2.0, if you lay it at 1.94 or 1.95 (both are acceptable to me) then you have a planned green exit (1.99 or 2.0), and a planned red exit (very important for reducing stress) which would be 1.93 or 1.92. This simplifies things an awful lot and in practice, it can really make the whole experience feel much more controlled and “easy”, if I dare to use that awful word, NO part of racing trading is “easy”!

One other nice thing about range trading is the dilemma of when to make your entry. This dilemma is a constant one with trend trading but when you’re trading within a range, you don’t much care for where the price is between the range limits. You can just drop in two orders, a lay order down the bottom and a back order up the top. Now you sit back, absorb the commentary and watch what all the ladders are doing, you’re fairly relaxed. You just wait for an order to get taken as the price nudges up or down it’s range. When one of the orders is taken, you now switch on a bit and basically defend yourself against the risks. Is the live feed showing your horse messing the jockey around, rearing up on its way to the stalls, sweating and snorting like it’s about to keel over, getting a bad rap from the talking heads etc? If so, you now know the range may be under threat. Are the other horses staying in their range? Are any other horses playing up? Remember the see-saw analogy….. if a horse kicks his jockey off and then goes for a jolly jaunt the wrong way round the track closely followed by his trainer, jockey, and course staff, HE is likely to break out of HIS range, which may affect our trade on the favourite.

Horses rearing up

Assuming all looks good, you just wait until your horse moves to the other end of his range, and you bank your green with a satisfying click, and often get back in for the return journey to the other end of the range. Obviously this sounds as easy as cake, and often it can be just that easy. But it isn’t always, and the breakouts can happen very suddenly and quickly, so if you miss your stop loss exit you will start getting quite panicked and quite red in more than one way. You need to be alert. Calm, but alert. The closer it is to the off, the more likely it is that the above threats can harm your trade. So a good tip might be to just start by watching only the 10-5 minutes pre-off period, less is likely to happen unexpectedly, but it always can, and the minute you don’t expect it, that’s when you need to expect it!!

There are various other semi-methods I apply, including an occasional scalp which I use increasingly rarely these days but if bored I might steal a tick or two if it looks just too easy to ignore! There are obviously about sixty-five million other words I could write which would all be relevant and useful here. But firstly this is just a page on the site and is already a lot longer than I intended, secondly I am writing an ebook about this very subject so I will put my energy into explaining more there.

For now I hope this has at least given the many people who have asked for it, a brief insight into what I do during the racing hours and some of the “whys” as well.

I will end with a reminder that my website is NOT intended to be any kind of trading advice or recommendations to do anything whatsoever. I merely share this stuff for educational purposes for people who want to read it.

Anything you do with your mouse is your responsibility, and yours alone!
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Pre-Race Horse Racing Trading on Betfair — 40 Comments

  1. I’d be happy to pay for advice and assistance to get full understanding of this. ? I don’t have a great deal but would love to learn how you make this work.

  2. Fantastic advice and thanks for putting together a great site. Who would you consider the top 10-20 tipsters you mention in the post?

    Cheers

    • Thanks Mike. Years ago Robin Goodfellow, Tony Stafford, and the Daily Star tipster were memorable ones for causing a wave of emotion among their readers. I am less up to speed on it lately as I have not used this method for a while, mostly due to personal commitments making the timing of these trades difficult for me. I do intend to get back to it this year and I will brush up this post and add a lot more detail as soon as I can.

    • I have a lot of stuff planned for the site this summer regarding horses. It’s my main summer trading approach for various reasons which I will go into at some point soon, perhaps with some detailed methods too. 🙂

  3. I use Fairbot .I dutch non handicaps and lay the fav in handicaps but green up using both strategies.Just to small stakes at first till I am confident enough to step up.

  4. Hi Dave, interesting post thanks. Why do you only dutch non-Hcaps?
    I notice a 1.01 horse was overturned yesterday (Thursday). I hope you laid that one, along with £27k of other people’s money, if my memory serves me well!

  5. Really enjoyed this. A lot of effort and a lot of good advice as usual. Great read Tim. Looking forward to the ebook.

    Chris

    • Excellent thanks Matt. I am taking that tip so I have it ready for the ebook as I will need to screenshot lots of live trades for that one. Might trade on my brother in law’s BF account just in case I get a bit techno-frazzled. He owes me anyway. ha ha ha. Thanks again

  6. Peter Webb, Caan Berry, Tom Hargraves all of them counterfeit their screenshot with P/L and trades when I asked them why? they blocked me and my comment on youtube and twitter so I would warn you to blindly listen what they are saying in their videos. Only ask yourself a question why would anyone trustfull counterfeit a screenshots?

    • Hi John.
      If someone is using a counterfeit screenshot to sell a product, they are committing a criminal offence of Fraud. You are entitled to your opinion, I am entitled to disagree with it, and I do completely. I do not believe for a moment that Peter Webb and Caan Berry have or ever would do such a thing. (I do not know of Tom Hargraves). I think perhaps your accusation would cause them to block you as you are basically accusing them of being criminals and if they are not (as I am sure they are not), it wouldn’t be a surprise to me to find they didn’t want to hear from you again! These people are (in my view) completely honest and decent people who are making a good living from horse racing trading. If you have evidence to the contrary I would urge you to take it to the police. If you only have an opinion then you are of course entitled to it, but I would suggest you look further into it FOR some evidence, and when you find there is none, you should consider whether your opinion is a rational one to hold. If not, maybe modify it somewhat.
      I can’t, don’t and wouldn’t speak for these people. But there is my opinion and since you commented here, I assumed you wanted it 🙂

      One other point I would make, I think you should put your energy into making their screenshots a reality for yourself rather than worrying about whether theirs are genuine or not, which I am sure they are! Admittedly this will be by far the harder choice to make and require a lot more effort and determination 🙂

      • Hi Tim, thanks for so long answer but instead go to one of their twitter account, dowload one of their screenshots published with trades then zoom in 400% and comeback with another comment. Cheers

        • Sorry John, I don’t understand your message. I don’t do Twitter (my posts automatically go on Twitter but other than that I wouldn’t have a clue how to use it!). “Zoom in” – what does this mean?
          Once again all I can say is I don’t agree with you, but if it’s simple to “prove” as you say, get in contact with the Police, I am sure they can use Twitter

          • Ok no problem Tim. You can watch this video to understand what i mean youtube.com/watch?v=gaePt_8HdqE

          • I decided to watch the video for some reason, and it didn’t help me understand anything sorry. Maybe I am not clever enough for this, but to me it just looked like you zooming in and scrolling your mouse around at random. I am sure you have a point but I didn’t catch it whatever it was. Maybe some text overlay on the video could explain what you are trying to point out, as I am utterly lost as is the last 8 minutes of my life 🙂

          • Sorry Tim that you didn’t get what is in video I thought that picture expresses more than a thousand words… and thanks for compliment lol you can watch second movie about someone who’s called Peter Webb youtube.com/watch?v=3bJLjuPt5sQ

          • Hi John. Against my better judgement I resisted the urge to ignore what you were saying as I like to listen to all points of view even if my gut feeling says not to. I have given you airtime to accuse some people who are definitely (in my opinion) very successful professional traders. The burden of proof lies firmly with the accuser under our legal system here. Opinions and beliefs are meaningless, as are personal gripes, jealousy, hatred, or any other emotionally driven opinions. You said it was clear and obvious to see this alleged fraud. I invited you to present this clear evidence, giving you the benefit of the doubt and allowing you to publish anything you wanted, something I am sure most other people would not have been kind enough to offer you on a public forum such as this. After some discussion and two videos where you could have explained all of your evidence which you say is so clear and easy to see, I am yet to see the slightest hint of proof at any of your allegations. I have opened my ears to you and spent time reading and watching your attempts to present clear evidence of something so that I might be “enlightened” to seeing the fraud you claim is definitely taking place. Maybe I am just too dumb to see the bright light you are shining on this alleged evidence, but either way, I can’t do any more than I have to try to understand. It’s your job to explain it (as the accuser), not my job to understand. You have failed to explain it, despite saying how “clear” it is to see and despite being given ample opportunity. If this were a courtroom, I am 99.9% sure the case would not even reach a full hearing due to lack of evidence. Perhaps that’s why you are commenting on blogs instead of taking this into that courtroom yourself? I don’t know, but I will close this discussion with my original statement: ‘If you have PROOF of a FRAUD, contact the british Police with your evidence and I am sure any fraud will be dealt with fully’. I would love to see ANY fraud proven and dealt with by the law, I urge you to do so here so that any fraud can be dealt with, or if not proven, for you to be satisfied that no fraud has taken place and spend your time on more positive ventures which will benefit you more, whichever the case may be. I would be grateful if you could pop back here to comment and update us all on what the Police say and do with your crime complaint once you have shown them all evidence you have of the alleged scam. You can look up the local police force for each of the people you mentioned and report it to them on their non emergency number, or if you are outside the UK you could perhaps use Interpol at https://www.interpol.int/Contact-INTERPOL. I wish you luck in proving what you seek to prove, and if you do not, I wish you luck in all your other endeavours and hope you come back to let us know what happened either way.
            All the best to you

  7. Hello Tim,

    The information transmitted on just one page is much larger than any other source I found on the internet: clear, direct, objective and simple. I wonder if you have a date to make your ebook available.

    Thank you
    Luciano

  8. Great stuff, Tim.

    Please add me to your forthcoming trading ebook mailing list.
    Much appreciate what you are doing for the little guys.

    wallygog

    • Hi Walter, I would gladly do that for you but I use an anti-spam email list service so I can’t add you manually myself, it has to come from your end. If you like the Facebook page or sign up in the ezine subscription form on the right hand side, that will keep you up to date with the announcements. Thanks

  9. Hi Tim,

    I loved this article and found it so useful. Definitely one i will read over and over again. I hope you will write more on trading the horse racing market.

    Is you new ebook on trading the horse racing market or for football?

    Regards

  10. Hi Tim

    This was brilliant. Thanks for the insight. I hope your going to write more articles on betfair horse racing.

    Is your new ebook on horse racing or football?

    Regards
    Stephen

  11. Hi Tim….firstly the guy John above, i cant understand what hes going on aboutin the 2 videos either…ive got Caans videos and have chatted with him in the past and can assure anyone he is definately not a fraudster but a genuine guy who only wants to share his vast knowledge of trading………..Your article above is probably the best ive read and is very informative and theres not much traders will give out strategies like you have…thanks for that and good luck in the future

    • Hi Dave, thanks very much. That was kind of you to say and glad you think so.
      Yes, unfortunately there are a few people in this world who would rather find fault in others than themselves. I don’t know if John is one of those but he seems to follow a similar pattern to those types of people. Some people see others doing things they so badly want to do, they just can’t accept it when they can’t do it too (usually through lack of trying hard/long enough). Sadly instead of trying harder, its often easier to write it all off as a scam, and spend the energy trying to ruin someone’s reputation more out of jealousy than anything else, a bit like the “well if I can have it, you can’t have it” mentality that we see 4 year old siblings often adopt in a spat over a toy.
      Again, I don’t know John well enough to say if this is the case, but if I had to guess with what little I have seen of his views and lack of anything meaningful to provide as evidence, I would have to guess it’s just rotten apples after a failed attempt at trading for him. I always listen to people with different views than my own and wish more people did so as its becoming very rare these days. I listen long enough to hear their evidence. If none is provided, we are just sharing opinions and it’s fairly useless and not worth my time beyond that. I can hear opinions anywhere, and in far nicer places than my office!
      Thanks again for your comments and best of luck with your trading

    • Hi Wendy, thanks for the compliment 🙂
      Having some problems setting up the order page but very soon there will be 2 new ebooks, then I will get working on the pre race trading ebook. That will be biggest task of all, don’t even know how I can cover it all but I will do my best!
      Happy trading

  12. Hi Tim!

    How would you recommend staking the early signal horses?

    This would suit me due to being out the house all day.

    I back horses to win and have know my selections very rarely do not shorten in price so would like to open a separate account and trade them also for a (hopefully) guaranteed profit.

    Would you use a large % of your bank on these or a small amount?

    Thanks!
    Paul.

    • Hi Paul, great if you can spot horses which usually shorten in price! You have a trading system of your own, keep hold of that!!
      I never like to use a large percentage of my bank for any trade! That’s unless I am doing something like bookmaking or scalping in big football games (where millions are being traded in the last hour) and I am only looking for 1 or 2 ticks, AND there is NO chance of me losing my stake (or more ticks than I am prepared to accept)
      I don’t really offer advice on staking as everyone is different and I don’t like to choose someone’s risk for them, I just wouldn’t do it. Having said that, my generic advice is the same as always, use the smallest stakes possible until you know you are onto something, have a good strike rate, are used to the software you’re using (if any) etc etc. Once all looking good, then increasing seems fine to me, but not to huge percentages. I would say 10% of bank is a large stake for anyone, depending on the trading method of course. 5% feels big for me and I don’t like going above that, but when I was growing my bank I did use higher stakes. The danger of it is obvious, a few losers and you can decimate a bank very quickly. Another danger is that it can feel quite hard to cut back those %’s when the bank grows, it feels like you are “missing out” which is another very risky thing to feel when trading!
      Best to just use a flat stake you are comfortable with and which will show a consistent line of profit or loss after say a month or two. If that’s looking good, a person (only then) has a much better idea of how much real risk there is, of that stake, and therefore can increase accordingly. To make a blanket statement would be foolish of me so if someone pushes me to a figure, I always say £2 per trade and that usually stops them asking. 😀 😀
      Hope that goes well for you, sounds good to me!

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